I’ve been a MacBook Pro user since the last decade, switching for better hardware but staying for the better OS. I happily bought a 15-inch MacBook Pro with Retina Display the day they were announced, but I’ve been using that same machine since 2012. Now I’m impatiently waiting to upgrade, holding out for Intel’s new Skylake CPUs and the late-2015 or early-2016 MacBook Pro.
15″ MacBook Pro: Long in the Tooth
Apple introduced the 15″ MacBook Pro with Retina Display in June 2012 and wowed the world. Powered by Intel’s just-introduced Ivy Bridge CPUs and packing an unheard-of 2880×1800 pixel IPS display, the “rMBP” instantly became the must-have laptop for power users, even those who hadn’t used a Macintosh before.
I bought one immediately. I literally opened the Apple Store app on my phone during the WWDC keynote and ordered it as soon as it was available. That’s how revolutionary this computer was.
But a funny thing happened to the 15″ Retina MacBook Pro since that June day over three years ago: Almost nothing.
Apple introduced a 13″ Retina MacBook Pro later that year and both machines were upgraded with Haswell CPUs in late 2013, but this was a modest upgrade in terms of performance. In March 2015, the 13″ machines got new dual-core “Broadwell” CPUs. But Intel was late delivering quad-core Broadwell CPUs, so the 15″ model has soldiered on with the same quad-core Haswell CPU for two years.
I’ve kept my trusty now-three-year-old 15″ Retina MacBook Pro all this time, happy enough with its performance and functionality. Even the battery life remains respectable, impressive considering it has 280 cycles in it. In fact, the only real issue I’ve had with the machine is the discrete GPU graphics gremlin, which I have yet to have Apple repair. Funny, but my 2008 MacBook Pro also had discrete GPU graphics gremlins!
Although my old MacBook Pro is still running fine, it is starting to get a bit long in the tooth. I ordered it with the 256 GB SSD, and that’s not much for a modern machine. I could upgrade it, but I’m also wishing I had a faster CPU and longer battery life. Happily, I opted for 16 GB of RAM. And the case, keyboard, and screen have held up well.
Here Comes Skylake!
I was considering upgrading to the latest MacBook Pro earlier this year, but the fact that it’s still using a 2-year old Haswell CPU stopped me. That’s a long time in computer circles, and I knew Intel was working on a better quad-core option.
After being burned twice by discrete GPU gremlins, and not needing massive performance or 5K displays, I wanted to stick to an integrated GPU this time around. But the Intel Iris Pro 5200 GPU in the 2015 Haswell MacBook Pro isn’t even as quick as the Nvidia GeForce GT 650M in my 2012 machine. I’d like something faster when I upgrade.
As noted, Intel was terribly late in delivering quad-core Broadwell CPUs. So late, in fact, that Apple is likely to skip that whole generation! Last month, Intel unveiled their Skylake CPUs and stated that the higher-end quad-core parts would ship first this time around. Although details remain murky, it looks like mobile Skylake CPUs will be available with faster “GT4e” graphics.
Reviews of Skylake have been positive but mixed. Performance is only modestly improved over the quad-core Haswell, but energy consumption has been tweaked significantly. Hopefully the enhanced graphics will deliver the goods, though absolute performance might not be much better.
Stephen’s Stance
Most industry watchers expect quad-core Skylake CPUs to appear in a refreshed 15″ MacBook Pro in another 6 months or so.
- If you’re considering a 13″ MacBook Pro, it’s a toss-up on whether to upgrade or wait. The next bump won’t be huge, so I’d say go for it.
- But if you’re considering buying a 15″ MacBook Pro, especially the base model without a discrete Nvidia or AMD GPU, you should definitely wait for Skylake. You’ll get much better graphics performance and likely better battery life as well.
I gave up and got the 13″, one reason was finding myself unable to really open and use the 2008 15″ while on an aircraft. I dont’ have THAAAAT big of a well-rounded belly and so something else had to give.
If I could’ve gotten 32GB ram i’d have stayed strong.
And I swore to myself never again to get a Apple with discreet graphics – still have one dead as a brick one around… (didn’t know back then you’re hopeless without Apple care if some hw bug like that hits you…)
Actually 32GB RAM over 16 wouldn’t make any difference for 99% of uses, unless you edit video or run virtual machines like VMWare.
And as for the HW bug you mention: (a) Apple should very much cover that even without Apple Care, as long as you’re still under warranty. (b) Having one without discreet graphics doesn’t mean you can’t potentially have a similar HW bug — just that it wont be because of the video card.
A) The GPU failure mentioned in this article is covered under a recall that was issued Early 2015. It is covered within 3 years of the original purchase date of the affected system or until 2/27/2016, whichever is longer. It has nothing to do with AppleCare or the standard warranty, at least at this point in time. If your system died under the coverage timespan allocated by either of those two coverages, then it was taken care of at that time prior to the recall being issued. (free of charge, of course)
B) Agree – hardware failures can happen with anything. However NVIDIA has had quite a bad reputation with chips dying. Not as often recently, but I do remember back in 2006-2008 their Vista-era GPUs were dying very quickly due to a poor thermal design. Spanned across a wide variety of manufacturers, and in 2010 there was a sizable class action lawsuit against them. However this recall also affected early-2011 MBP’s as well, which to my knowledge were only AMD-based graphics.
I too have a Mid-2012 retina that had problems from day one, but didn’t think anything of it until it refused to power on (HDMI died first, then display started to flicker, then black). 2 weeks later, Apple issued the recall, and I had my logic board replaced immediately. With the replacement board, I was upgraded from 8 to 16GB of RAM free of charge. 32GB really is only of use if you do some serious multitasking or resource intensive work. For the average user, you’re right, it’s just padding.