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		<title>Tracking EMC&#8217;s Symmetrix V-Max Launch</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[EMC completely took over April 14 to launch their next-generation Symmetrix enterprise storage system. Sporting their new V-Max architecture, the Symmetrix (let&#8217;s just call it DMX-5, ok?) is a scale-out system based on standard components wrapped together into a multiprocessing powerhouse. This news is so fresh you would leave footprints if you step in it, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EMC completely took over April 14 to launch their next-generation Symmetrix enterprise storage system. Sporting their new V-Max architecture, the Symmetrix (let&#8217;s just call it DMX-5, ok?) is a scale-out system based on standard components wrapped together into a multiprocessing powerhouse.</p>
<p>This news is so fresh you would leave footprints if you step in it, but here&#8217;s a collection of my favorite links and coverage so far. I&#8217;ll be updating this list throughout the next few days:</p>
<ul>
<li>Let&#8217;s start with independents:
<ul>
<li>My first post on the topic can be found over at Gestalt IT: <a href="http://gestaltit.com/featured/top/stephen/emc-symmetrix-vmax-neither-nor/" >EMC Symmetrix V-Max Is Neither Monolithic Nor Midrange</a></li>
<li>Chris Evans was first but promises more than <a href="http://thestoragearchitect.com/2009/04/14/enterprise-computing-emc-announced-next-generation-v-max-architecture/" >Enterprise Computing: EMC Announced Next Generation V-Max Architecture</a></li>
<li>Storagebod supposes that there will be <a rel="nofollow" href="http://storagebod.typepad.com/storagebods_blog/2009/04/so-no-dmx5.html" >No DMX5</a></li>
<li>Duncan Epping is watching from a server virtualization perspective: <a href="http://www.yellow-bricks.com/2009/04/14/emc-announced-the-symmetrix-v-max/" >EMC announced the Symmetrix V-Max!</a></li>
<li>Jerome Wendt: <a href="http://www.dciginc.com/2009/04/emc-symmetrix-vmax-its-about-time.html" >EMC Symmetrix V-Max &#8211; It&#8217;s About Time</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>And the press:
<ul>
<li>Beth Pariseau is always smart, as her SearchStorage piece shows: <a href="http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid5_gci1353690,00.html" >EMC clusters Symmetrix high-end disk arrays</a></li>
<li>And Beth on StorageSoup: <a href="http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/storage-soup/emc-launches-symmetrix-v-max-may-add-spin-down/" >EMC launches Symmetrix V-Max, may add spin-down</a></li>
<li>Chris Mellor is dead on in his piece for The Register, <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/14/symmetrix_modularity/"  target="_blank">Symmetrix and the death of monolithic arrays</a></li>
<li>Lucas Mearian of Computerworld focused his piece on the private cloud: <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&amp;articleId=9131516" >EMC introduces x86-based Symmetrix array for cloud storage</a></li>
<li>Dave Raffo at StorageSoup: <a href="http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/storage-soup/emc-v-max-v-stands-for-bigger/" >EMC V-Max: V stands for bigger</a></li>
<li>Paul Travis at Byte and Switch: <a href="http://www.byteandswitch.com/document.asp?doc_id=175232" >EMC Clusters New Storage Systems for Virtual Data Centers</a></li>
<li>And Dave Simpson brings up the rear on his personal blog, but still no word from InfoStor: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://davesimpsonsstorageblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/emc-v-max-locked-in-and-loaded.html" >EMC V-Max: Locked (in) and loaded</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>EMC&#8217;s bloggers are first out of the gate:
<ul>
<li>Barry Burke has typically prolific and detailed coverage: </li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>
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<li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://thestorageanarchist.typepad.com/weblog/2009/04/1055-symmetrix-v-max-a-revolutionary-evolution.html" >1.055: symmetrix v-max &#8211; a revolutionary evolution</a></li>
<li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://thestorageanarchist.typepad.com/weblog/2009/04/1056-inside-the-virtual-matrix-architecture.html" >1.056: inside the virtual matrix architecture</a> (my favorite)</li>
<li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://thestorageanarchist.typepad.com/weblog/2009/04/1057-symmetrix-v-max-scale-up-scale-out-scale-away.html" >1.057: symmetrix v-max &#8211; scale up, scale out, scale away!</a></li>
<li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://thestorageanarchist.typepad.com/weblog/2009/04/1058-v-max-does-what-hi-star-cant.html" >1.058: v-max does what hi-star can&#8217;t?</a></li>
<li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://thestorageanarchist.typepad.com/weblog/2009/04/1059-fully-automated-storage-tiering-fast.html" >1.059: fully automated storage tiering (fast)</a></li>
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</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Chuck Hollis&#8217; <a href="http://chucksblog.emc.com/chucks_blog/2009/04/vmax-storage-architecture-redefined.html" >Symmetrix V-Max: Storage Architecture Redefined</a> is a solid overview</li>
<li>Chad Sakac is always good, and his <a rel="nofollow" href="http://virtualgeek.typepad.com/virtual_geek/2009/04/emcs-vmware-storage-strategy---the-3rd-shoe-drops.html" >EMC’s VMware Storage Strategy &#8211; The 3rd Shoe Drops</a> is a must-read on V-Max, though I&#8217;m still left wondering about EMC&#8217;s VMware strategy!</li>
<li>Mark Twomey&#8217;s there with three posts and counting:
<ul>
<li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://storagezilla.typepad.com/storagezilla/2009/04/vmax-the-scale-out-symmetrix.html" >V-Max: The Scale Out Symmetrix</a></li>
<li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://storagezilla.typepad.com/storagezilla/2009/04/vmax-auto-provisioning-groups.html" >VMax: Auto-provisioning Groups</a></li>
<li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://storagezilla.typepad.com/storagezilla/2009/04/v-max-srdf.html" >V-Max: SRDF Evolves</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Dick Sullivan promises <a rel="nofollow" href="http://energymatters.typepad.com/greenit/2009/04/you-aint-seen-nothing-yet-1.html" >You Ain&#8217;t Seen Nothing Yet</a></li>
<li>Steve Todd:
<ul>
<li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://stevetodd.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/04/vmax-quality.html" >V-Max Quality</a></li>
<li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://stevetodd.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/04/managing-vmax-at-scale.html" >Managing V-Max at Scale</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Len Devanna comments on the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://lensblog.typepad.com/ebiz/2009/04/a-social-launch.html" >Social Launch</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>The opposition is moving fast, too!
<ul>
<li>Marc Farley preempted the announcement with a hilarious must-watch video, <a href="http://www.storagerap.com/2009/04/emc-insider-interview-is-a-fake.html" >EMC insider interview is a fake</a>, and an expose on <a href="http://www.storagerap.com/2009/04/whats-a-tigon-anyway.html" >What&#8217;s a tigon anyway?</a></li>
<li>Val Bercovici from NetApp observes that the world might have moved past the need for a Symmetrix, noting <a href="http://blogs.netapp.com/exposed/2009/04/overtake-this-symmetrix-v-max-frames-are-so-90s.html#more" >&#8220;Frames are so 90’s&#8221;</a></li>
<li>Hu Yoshida focuses on what the V-Max is not: A storage virtualization platform. <a href="http://blogs.hds.com/hu/2009/04/dont-confuse-symmetrix-v-max-with-storage-virtualization.html" >Don’t Confuse Symmetrix V-Max with Storage Virtualization</a></li>
<li>Claus Mikkelsen of HDS was also predictably underwhelmed, asking why EMC introduced this roadmap now? <a href="http://blogs.hds.com/claus/2009/04/emc-catching-up-with-the-past.html" >EMC &#8211; Catching Up With the Past</a></li>
<li>Tony Asaro blogs for HDS about <a href="http://blogs.hds.com/tony/2009/04/10-questions-on-v-max.html" >10 Questions on V-Max</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>That&#8217;s the news that&#8217;s fit to print so far! Stick with this post and Gestalt IT&#8217;s continuing <a href="http://gestaltit.com/tag/v-max/"  target="_blank">coverage of the V-Max</a>!</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>You might also want to read these other posts...</h3><ul><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2009/08/17/emc-vmax-fast-coming-december/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">EMC V-Max FAST: Coming in December &#8230; And 2010!</a></li><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2009/02/05/difference-integration-frankenstein/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">The Difference Between &#8220;Integration&#8221; and &#8220;Frankenstein&#8221;</a></li><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/11/07/emc-maui/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">EMC About To Take Us To Maui&#8230;</a></li><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/04/26/5313/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title"></a></li><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2009/04/06/spring-storage-networking-world-2009/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Spring Storage Networking World 2009, Here I Come!</a></li></ul></div><script src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~s/sfoskett?i=http://blog.fosketts.net/2009/04/14/emc-symmetrix-vmax-launch/" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script><hr />
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		<title>The Difference Between &#8220;Integration&#8221; and &#8220;Frankenstein&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When is a solution integrated and when is it a Frankenstein-like mashup of tangled tech? Apparently, that line is crossed when it&#8217;s your competitor&#8217;s offering&#8230; In my time in the storage industry, I&#8217;ve seen enough franken-storage come and go to make me skeptical whenever a new &#8220;integrated&#8221; solution is announced. But a lot of this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_1384" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 151px;  border: 1px solid #dddddd; background-color: #f3f3f3; padding-top: 4px; margin: 10px; text-align:center; float: right;"><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/frankenweenie.jpg" ><img class="size-full wp-image-1384" title="frankenweenie" src="http://blog.fosketts.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/frankenweenie.jpg" alt="Frankenweenie saves young Victor in Tim Burton's macabre short film" width="141" height="215" /></a><p style=' padding: 0 4px 5px; margin: 0;'  class="wp-caption-text">Frankenweenie saves young Victor in Tim Burton&#39;s macabre short film</p></div>
<p>When is a solution integrated and when is it a Frankenstein-like mashup of tangled tech? Apparently, that line is crossed <strong>when it&#8217;s your competitor&#8217;s offering</strong>&#8230;</p>
<p>In my time in the storage industry, I&#8217;ve seen enough franken-storage come and go to make me skeptical whenever a new &#8220;integrated&#8221; solution is announced. But a lot of this stuff works just fine, so I also know that <strong>integrated solutions aren&#8217;t always bad</strong>!</p>
<p>The latest industry blog flame war centers around <a href="http://www.netapp.com/us/company/news/news-rel-20090203-flash-ssd.html"  target="_blank">NetApp&#8217;s recently-announced solid state storage solution</a>, which pairs a <a href="http://www.netapp.com/us/products/storage-systems/v3100/"  target="_blank">V-Series NAS head</a> and a Texas Memory Systems <a href="http://www.superssd.com/products/ramsan-500/"  target="_blank">RamSan-500</a> flash storage system. Perhaps NetApp&#8217;s <a href="http://blogs.netapp.com/exposed/" >Val Bercovici</a> did get a bit over-excited in <a href="http://blogs.netapp.com/exposed/2009/02/solid-state-sto.html"  target="_blank">his post on the topic</a>, but he wasn&#8217;t just talking about the RamSan: <strong>He was laying out how NetApp&#8217;s WAFL technology can work in an SSD world</strong>, and using some recent performance test numbers on that solution as well as their PAM cache cards as an illustration of this.</p>
<p>The next thing you know, we have EMC&#8217;s <a rel="nofollow" href="http://storagezilla.typepad.com/storagezilla/2009/02/but-wait-theres-less.html"  target="_blank">Storagezilla</a> and IBM&#8217;s <a href="http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/storagevirtualization?entry=did_it_need_a_press"  target="_blank">Barry Whyte</a> calling the company out for what they (and others. like <a rel="nofollow" href="http://storagebod.typepad.com/storagebods_blog/2009/02/is-that-it.html"  target="_blank">Storagebod</a>) see as an underwhelming product offering. That&#8217;s all well and good, and I&#8217;ll let the reader decide if NetApp&#8217;s moves warranted a press release, but now things have gotten <a href="http://blogs.netapp.com/extensible_netapp/"  target="_blank">uglier</a>&#8230;<span id="more-1383"></span></p>
<p>EMC&#8217;s Chuck Hollis called the whole RamSan idea to account, saying it was &#8220;<a href="http://chucksblog.emc.com/chucks_blog/2009/02/whither-frankenstorage.html"  target="_blank">Frankenstorage</a>&#8220;, causing NetApp&#8217;s Alex MacDonald to engage in a little &#8220;<a href="http://blogs.netapp.com/shadeofblue/2009/02/much-of-the-mai.html"  target="_blank">I know you are but what am I</a>&#8221; in reference to EMC&#8217;s CLARiiON/Celerra &#8220;unified storage&#8221; solutions.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to<strong> bring some sanity</strong> to this whole integrated solution concept. Every product in the storage world is an amalgamation of OEM parts to one extent or another, and there are always <a rel="nofollow" href="http://stevetodd.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/02/xam-from-bleeding-to-cutting-edge.html"  target="_blank">integration issues</a>. Certainly many of EMC&#8217;s offerings could be the subject of name-calling: They use <a rel="nofollow" href="http://thestorageanarchist.typepad.com/weblog/2008/09/1025-flash-wars.html"  target="_blank">STEC SSD drives in the DMX</a>, they use <a rel="nofollow" href="http://thebackupblog.typepad.com/thebackupblog/2008/06/not-just-a-river-in-egypt.html"  target="_blank">Quantum deduplication engines</a> in their CDLs, and their Celerra NS platform <em>does</em> include <a rel="nofollow" href="http://chucksblog.typepad.com/chucks_blog/2008/08/emc-unified-sto.html"  target="_blank">a complete Fibre Channel SAN</a> behind the curtain. But they&#8217;re not alone, and not even wrong in doing this: Every vendor relies on OEMs, and as <a rel="nofollow" href="http://storagezilla.typepad.com/storagezilla/2008/11/mr-backup-gets-it-wrong.html"  target="_blank">a wise man said</a>, &#8220;<strong>working with an OEM gives you the flexibility to pick best of breed technologies</strong>&#8221; and that&#8217;s exactly what customers want. Any objective person would welcome qualification and integration of TMS&#8217; RamSan with a solid platform like the NetApp V-Series &#8211; it&#8217;s a certifiable win for the customer. Just like they would be happy to see EMC leveraging great technology from Quantum and STEC.</p>
<p>Chuck goes on to point out some downsides to these OEM combinations, and they&#8217;re certainly fair criticisms:</p>
<ul>
<li>When you&#8217;re buying this from this guy and that from that guy, <strong>it&#8217;s bound to cost more</strong> because <a rel="nofollow" href="http://storagezilla.typepad.com/storagezilla/2009/01/we-dont-do-free-frank.html"  target="_blank">everyone needs their cut</a>.</li>
<li>Since all attempts at unified heterogeneous device management <a rel="nofollow" href="http://storagearchitect.blogspot.com/2009/01/storage-management-aperi-its-all-over.html"  target="_blank">have failed</a>, a combo is certainly <strong>harder to manage</strong> than a single device.</li>
<li>With multiple vendors in the mix, fingerpointing is common once <strong>support is needed</strong>.</li>
</ul>
<p>But these criticisms can be mitigated by the vendors themselves. They can give up some margin in order to gain market share. They can create unified management interfaces for the combinations they sell and support. And they can really support what they sell, refusing to give in to the temptation to say &#8220;not my problem&#8221; when the going gets rough. <strong>And companies deal with these problems all the time</strong>! Frankenstorage doesn&#8217;t have to be so scary&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>This post can also be found on <a href="http://gestaltit.com"  target="_blank">Gestalt IT</a>: <a href="http://gestaltit.com/tech/storage/stephen/the-difference-between-%e2%80%9cintegration%e2%80%9d-and-%e2%80%9cfrankenstein%e2%80%9d/" >The Difference Between “Integration” and “Frankenstein”</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[EMC&#8217;s Chuck Hollis is one smart guy, and a very verbose blogger. As usual, he sparked a bit of a storm recently when comparing unified storage on EMC&#8217;s Celerra NX4 to NetApp&#8217;s multiprotocol FAS2020 filer. But it was one phrase in particular that got the attention of Alex McDonald and Kostadis Russos of NetApp, Martin/Storagebod, and Tony [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EMC&#8217;s Chuck Hollis is one smart guy, and a very verbose blogger. As usual, he sparked a bit of a storm recently when <a href="http://chucksblog.emc.com/chucks_blog/2008/12/dell-emc-and-the-new-nx4.html"  target="_blank">comparing unified storage on EMC&#8217;s Celerra NX4 to NetApp&#8217;s multiprotocol FAS2020 filer</a>. But it was one phrase in particular that got the attention of <a href="http://blogs.netapp.com/shadeofblue/2008/12/mad-blog-the-e.html"  target="_blank">Alex McDonald</a> and <a href="http://blogs.netapp.com/extensible_netapp/2008/12/mad-blog-chuck.html"  target="_blank">Kostadis Russos</a> of NetApp, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://storagebod.typepad.com/"  target="_blank">Martin/Storagebod</a>, and <a href="http://contemplatingit.com/"  target="_blank">Tony Asaro</a>: &#8220;just because a vendor says they can emulate FC SAN behavior doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s a real FC SAN.&#8221;</p>
<p>What was he getting at? Read <a href="http://chucksblog.emc.com/chucks_blog/2008/12/dell-emc-and-the-new-nx4.html"  target="_blank">the comments</a> in Chuck&#8217;s post and you&#8217;ll understand his implication: Chuck suggests that NetApp &#8220;emulates&#8221; Fibre Channel in their FAS/OnTap devices on top of the WAFL &#8220;file system&#8221;, while EMC&#8217;s AX storage (behind the NX4) uses &#8220;real&#8221; Fibre Channel, so it&#8217;s better. He goes on to say that EMC is doing a brisk business replacing misfit NetApp FC arrays with real FC kit from EMC. But, as is so often the case, the truth is a little more complex than this: <strong>All enterprise storage arrays &#8220;emulate&#8221; Fibre Channel drives to one extent or another, and using the wrong tool for the job will always lead to trouble</strong>.</p>
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<h3 class="post-subhead">Is It Real Or Is It Virtual?</h3>
<p>Let&#8217;s knock one thing out right away: Chuck is right, <strong>NetApp </strong><em><strong>is</strong></em><strong> emulating Fibre Channel drives</strong> with their FAS arrays. They really <em>do</em> lay out chunks of storage on something kind of like a file system with a bunch of logic mixed in and then pretend that this space is a plain-jane SCSI drive connected over Fibre Channel. And I&#8217;ll add to the &#8220;scandal&#8221; by pointing out that NetApp does exactly the same thing with their iSCSI drives!</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s move on to an even more important point: <strong>All modern storage arrays emulate SCSI drives</strong>! That&#8217;s right, every enterprise storage array is lying, pretending to serve up basic drives but really slicing and dicing them in the background for their own nefarious purposes!</p>
<p>Who is responsible for this deceit? I place the blame on a few: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Pubs/TechRpts/1987/CSD-87-391.pdf"  target="_blank">Patterson, Gibson, and Katz</a> started the game with their so-called RAID concept, which kicked things off by allowing a few drives to pretend to be a single one. Data General implemented this with cache in their oh-so-clever <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/11/15/top-ten-storage-hardware/"  target="_blank">HADA</a>, further separating us from The True Disk. But the worst was EMC, with their fully-virtualized Symmetrix array, where there was no definite relationship at all between the LUNs presented to servers and the disks that do all the real work. Some folks would even go so far as to praise this type of <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/09/14/turning-page-raid/"  target="_self">post-RAID</a> virtualized storage as <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/11/15/top-ten-storage-hardware/"  target="_blank">innovative</a>!</p>
<p>NetApp takes this &#8220;automated lying&#8221; to the extreme, forcing their innocent hardware to take honest, well-laid-out blocks of <a href="http://blogs.netapp.com/dave/2008/12/is-wafl-a-files.html"  target="_blank">intelligent WAFL space</a> and twist them into vast tracts of dumb pretend-disks. <strong>The nerve!</strong> Compellent, 3PAR, Dell/EqualLogic, and the rest are just as bad, scattering blocks of data willy-nilly across their disks in so-called &#8220;<a href="http://www.storagerap.com/2008/12/basics-of-wide-striping-laying-out-data-in-chunklets.html"  target="_blank">wide stripes</a>&#8220;. But don&#8217;t let Chuck&#8217;s misdirection fool you: EMC is just as guilty with each of their different storage platforms, masquerading as disk drives or file servers and intelligently managing storage underneath! And don&#8217;t get me started on the twisted things VMware does to storage!</p>
<p>Modern? Feh! Let&#8217;s all hope Apple starts producing their <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/02/19/apple-revs-xsan-and-kills-xserve-raid/"  target="_self">no-feature Xserve RAID</a> again!</p>
<h3 class="post-subhead">Waiting On Angels</h3>
<p>So every modern array emulates disks. What was Chuck&#8217;s point again? Oh yeah, that the AX Fibre Channel storage used by EMC&#8217;s NX4 is superior to the integrated Fibre Channel capability of the NetApp FAS2020! I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s right for some use cases and wrong for others. FC on the FAS2020 is a perfect match for some, and the NX4/AX wins in a landslide in some circumstances.</p>
<p>The crux of the argument is the fact that NetApp does all sorts of stuff behind the scenes build and support an FC LUN that the EMC AX FC array doesn&#8217;t do. So, although it wouldn&#8217;t be fair to say that one was &#8220;emulated&#8221; and another was not, Chuck would be correct in saying that an FC LUN on an AX is more &#8220;real&#8221; than one on a NetApp FAS. <strong>But arguing over technicalities like this is all <a href="http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1008/did-medieval-scholars-argue-over-how-many-angels-could-dance-on-the-head-of-a-pin"  target="_blank">angels and pins</a> and doesn&#8217;t matter in the real world</strong>!</p>
<p>What does matter? In block storage, latency is king. Generally speaking, more cogs and wheels leads to more latency. This is why storage arrays rely so much on large, intelligent caches and vendors are experimenting with all sorts of <a href="http://blogs.netapp.com/storage_nuts_n_bolts/2008/08/performance-acc.html"  target="_blank">cool caching technology</a>. But, ignoring cache, <strong>high-end arrays generally have worse latency than low-end ones</strong> because they have all sorts of translation and virtualization going on in the background. In any I/O situation, increased latency hurts throughput and the perception of performance. And there comes a point when block applications give up waiting and it&#8217;s &#8220;game over, man!&#8221;</p>
<p>I remember migrating from an old CLARiiON 3100 to a brand new Symmetrix 3930 and watching the Symmetrix choke on the incoming data stream. It just couldn&#8217;t write fast enough to handle full streaming reads from the (old-tech) CLARiiON. But once everything was migrated and running, the Symmetrix, with its massive (for the time) 16 GB of cache, widely-spaced data layout, and multiple internal channels, completely destroyed the CLARiiON in real-world performance. This pattern continues today, with devices like the DMX and USP offering much better real-world performance than benchmarks or theoretical techno-arguments would suggest.</p>
<h3 class="post-subhead">So Which Is Better?</h3>
<p>But Chuck and the rest were not talking about high-end stuff here. They are comparing the architecture of entry-level enterprise kit and drawing conclusions about which is best. I personally don&#8217;t care what the internals of the system look like. I care how well it works.</p>
<p>I have personally seen Microsoft Exchange running on low-end FC-connected NetApp FAS arrays, and it worked great. I also helped a customer migrate off of EMC AX that didn&#8217;t give them the performance they needed for their databases. In truth, <strong>lower-end gear is often over-sold</strong> and unable to deliver the performance, features, and reliability specified on data sheets and in vendor presentations.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right, there&#8217;s more to this picture than raw performance. Consider manageability, for one. NetApp is offering a single-interface integrated system with all protocols (CIFS, NFS, iSCSI, and FC) available from one device. They also offer similar levels of integration for their (really nice) snapshot, replication, and deduplication technology. WAFL is busy doing a lot of great stuff, so I really wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if EMC&#8217;s less-integrated NX/AX offering beats them on performance at the same price point. <strong>Which is more important to you, integration, performance, or features</strong>? And I bet that, if you spent a bit more on a higher-end NetApp box, you could have it all.</p>
<p>On the flip side, EMC is offering a really compelling entry-enterprise combination at a nice price point. The latest NX should be on everyone&#8217;s NAS short list, and I&#8217;m sure the simple FC of the AX array would work well in a smallish Exchange, VMware, or SQL Server environment. It&#8217;s not as unified as NetApp&#8217;s offering management- or feature-wise, but it&#8217;s still pretty good.</p>
<p>Pick the right tool for the job, though. Neither the NX4 nor the FAS2020 is a good fit for a high-I/O application, and that&#8217;s a fact!</p>
<blockquote><p>This post can also be found on <a href="http://gestaltit.com"  target="_blank">Gestalt IT</a>: <a href="http://gestaltit.com/tech/storage/stephen/of-emulated-fibre-channel-virtualization-and-the-right-tool-for-the-job/" >Of Emulated Fibre Channel, Virtualization, And The Right Tool For The Job</a></p>
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