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		<title>Back From the Pile: Interesting Links, March 4, 2011</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 17:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I spent this week at the 2011 Microsoft MVP Summit in Redmond, WA. It was an excellent trip, full of great information that I can't talk about: Microsoft is the only company I have an NDA with! But I can say that no one should count that company out. Although Apple, Google, and Facebook (?!) get all the attention, Microsoft is making some good moves. The Kinnect and Windows Phone 7 show that innovation and creativity is alive and well in Redmond!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent this week at the 2011 Microsoft MVP Summit in Redmond, WA. It was an excellent trip, full of great information that I can&#8217;t talk about: Microsoft is the only company I have an NDA with! But I can say that no one should count that company out. Although Apple, Google, and Facebook (?!) get all the attention, Microsoft is making some good moves. The Kinnect and Windows Phone 7 show that innovation and creativity is alive and well in Redmond!</p>
<p>Now for some highlights from the week:</p>
<ul class="scrd_digest">
<li>My writing:
<ul>
<li>I wrote another post for Network Computing: <a href="http://www.networkcomputing.com/storage-networking-management/storage-capacity-still-drives-accessibility.php" >Storage Capacity Still Drives Accessibility </a></li>
<li>I picked up a new 2011 MacBook Pro last Thursday, and took it along to Redmond. You might want to read <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/series/2011-macbook-pro-review/" title="2011 MacBook Pro review" >my MacBook Pro review series</a>:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/02/25/2011-macbook-pro-review-introduction/" >2011 MacBook Pro Review: Introduction</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/02/26/2011-apple-macbook-pro-comparison/" >Decision Point: Comparing the 2011 MacBook Pro Models</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/03/02/benchmarking-2011-13-core-i5-macbook-pro/" >Benchmarking the 2011 13″ Core i5 MacBook Pro</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>I had some time on the plane, so wrote up some things I&#8217;ve been meaning to get out:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/03/01/google-dropbox-revolutionized-laptop-migration/" >How Google and Dropbox Revolutionized My Laptop Migration</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/03/03/multiple-macs-sync-dropbox/" >Keep Multiple Macs in Sync with Dropbox</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Some good deals popped up this week, too: <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/03/02/clearance-ipad/" >Great Deals on iPads (for now)</a> and <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/03/02/cradlepoint-phs300-3g-router/" >Get a Cradlepoint PHS300 Portable 3G WiFi Router For Just $79!</a></li>
<li>This week marks my first Storage for Virtual Environments seminar, so I kicked it off with <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/03/04/introducing-storage-virtual-environments-seminar/" >Introducing Storage for Virtual Environments (From My Seminar)</a></li>
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</li>
<li>Other great stuff:
<ul>
<li>Terry Slattery is perhaps the most-famous CCIE, and we were lucky to have him join us at Networking Field Day in September. But he wanted to talk about <a href="http://www.netcordia.com/community/blogs/terrys_blog/archive/2011/03/04/infoblox-amp-netmri-at-tech-field-day.aspx" rel="external" >Infoblox &amp; NetMRI at Tech Field Day</a> from last month! He also wrote about <a href="http://www.netcordia.com/community/blogs/terrys_blog/archive/2011/02/25/ipv6-economics-why-move-to-ipv6.aspx" rel="external" >IPv6 Economics &#8211; Why Move To IPv6?</a></li>
<li>Another great post from Tech Field Day comes from Matthew Norwood, who will also be joining us in two weeks at Wireless Field Day: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://networktherapy.wordpress.com/2011/03/04/hp-networking-the-visionas-i-understand-it" rel="external" >HP Networking – The Vision(As I Understand It)</a></li>
<li>Last week saw the unveiling of the iPad 2: I don&#8217;t often share John Gruber&#8217;s writing, but I loved <a href="http://daringfireball.net/2011/03/the_chair" rel="external" >The Chair</a>, and also really enjoyed MG Siegler&#8217;s piece, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Techcrunch/~3/F_ruSx8HfuE/" rel="external" >An iPad Lover’s (Initial) Thoughts On iPad 2</a></li>
<li>Some interesting tech notes out of Redmond:
<ul>
<li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2515143" rel="external" >Using Hyper-V with large sector drives on Windows Server 2008 and Windows Server 2008 R2</a></li>
<li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2515143" rel="external" ></a><a rel="nofollow" href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/982018" rel="external" >An update that improves the compatibility of Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 with Advanced Format Disks is available</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blogs.technet.com/b/josebda/archive/2011/02/25/file-server-improvements-from-windows-server-2003-to-windows-server-2008-r2-8-items-for-8-years.aspx" rel="external" >File Server improvements from Windows Server 2003 to Windows Server 2008 R2. 8 items for 8 years…</a></li>
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</li>
<li>A great Greg Schulz post on bit-level encoding: <a href="http://storageioblog.com/?p=1757" rel="external" >From bits to bytes: Decoding Encoding</a></li>
<li>Nigel Poulton is always worth reading, but his take on <a href="http://blog.nigelpoulton.com/storage-benchmarking-and-formula-1/#utm_source=feed&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=feed" rel="external" >Storage Benchmarking and Formula 1</a> is especially rewarding</li>
<li>Nerd Vittles didn&#8217;t like the <a href="http://nerdvittles.com/?p=724" rel="external" >Motorola Xoom: A Disappointing Introduction to Android 3.0</a></li>
<li>Another great enterprise networking piece by Greg Ferro: <a href="http://etherealmind.com/diverging-ethernet-switch-markets/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed:+etherealmind+(My+Etherealmind+-+Network+design,+architecture,+thinking,+working.+Tech.)&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader" rel="external" >Diverging Ethernet Switch Markets</a></li>
<li>Who&#8217;d have thought it? <a href="http://perspectives.mvdirona.com/2011/02/27/ExploringTheLimitsOfDatacenterTemprature.aspx" rel="external" >Exploring the Limits of Datacenter Temprature</a></li>
<li>Some great information on the next Mac OS: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/lastpodcastblog/~3/k-ZiQlMKv9o/" rel="external" >iOS on the Desktop: Hands-On With the OS X 10.7 Lion Preview</a></li>
<li>Bill Hill put together a great single-piece on <a rel="nofollow" href="http://virtualbill.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/tech-field-day-posts/" rel="external" >Tech Field Day Posts</a> as well as <a rel="nofollow" href="http://virtualbill.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/fixed-block-vs-variable-block-deduplication-a-quick-primer/" rel="external" >Fixed Block vs Variable Block Deduplication – A Quick Primer</a></li>
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<div id="crp_related"><h3>You might also want to read these other posts...</h3><ul><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/07/08/pile-interesting-links-july-8-2011/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Back From the Pile: Interesting Links, July 8, 2011</a></li><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/03/11/pile-interesting-links-march-11-2011/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Back From the Pile: Interesting Links, March 11, 2011</a></li><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/03/18/pile-interesting-links-march-18-2011/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Back From the Pile: Interesting Links, March 18, 2011</a></li><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/01/17/pile-interesting-links-january-14-2011/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Back From the Pile: Interesting Links, January 14, 2011</a></li><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/03/25/pile-interesting-links-march-25-2011/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Back From the Pile: Interesting Links, March 25, 2011</a></li></ul></div><script src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~s/sfoskett?i=http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/03/05/pile-interesting-links-march-4-2011/" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script><hr />
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		<title>Are Hybrid Hard Drives A Good Alternative To An SSD?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 22:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[How well does the Momentus XT perform in a Mac laptop? Focusing on lower cost and greater benefit without getting taken in by the coolness of SSDs or hybrid drives, let's weigh the merits.]]></description>
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<p>A timely question from a comment on my <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2010/11/20/seagate-momentus-xt-500-gb-hybrid-drive-discount/"  target="_blank">cheap Momentus XT</a> post and continued in my inbox:</p>
<blockquote><p>How well does [the Momentus XT] perform in a Mac laptop? What I&#8217;ve noticed is substantial slow-down on my older MB Pro when there&#8217;s a lot of virtual memory usage (e.g. when running several apps plus Parallels.) For my next MBP (hopefully in the next 2-3 months), I&#8217;m considering 2 options:</p>
<ol>
<li>Buy [the 500 GB Momentus XT] hybrid drive now, put it into my 1st gen MB Pro, and then move it to a new MB Pro when the boss lets me buy one.</li>
<li>When I get the new MB Pro, replace its hard drive with a 128 GB SSD, and put the rotating drive into an external (FW800) enclosure.  I&#8217;ve been tracking my disk utilization, and I figure I can live pretty comfortably within 128gb most of the time, as long as I have storage to move stuff I want to keep around but don&#8217;t use every day (e.g. mail archives, my iTunes stuff which I only use on the road, etc)</li>
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<p>The interesting thing is these options are just about the same price, not counting the external drive enclosure.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had the Seagate 500 GB 7200 rpm drive in this (2.33 Core 2 Duo, 2005 vintage) laptop for a couple years now.  The fans kick in whenever anything disk-intensive goes on (e.g. mobile account rsync) and that is much more likely to happen when it uses more than 512 MB swap.</p>
<p>The current laptop is maxed out at 3 GB, the new one WILL have a full 8 GB, which should be a big help in reducing/eliminating swapping.</p></blockquote>
<h3>Weighing The Alternatives</h3>
<p>It sounds like you&#8217;re looking at things the right way: Focused on lower cost and greater benefit without getting taken in by the coolness of SSDs or hybrid drives. And you&#8217;re also bringing up a key usability consideration: That external drive enclosure. So let&#8217;s weigh the merits.</p>
<h4>How Does The Momentus XT Really Perform?</h4>
<div id="attachment_4178" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px;  border: 1px solid #dddddd; background-color: #f3f3f3; padding-top: 4px; margin: 10px; text-align:center; float: right;"><a href="http://static.fosketts.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/41dv7hsAjVL._AA300_.jpg" ><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-4178" title="Seagate Momentus XT" src="http://static.fosketts.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/41dv7hsAjVL._AA300_-150x150.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a><p style=' padding: 0 4px 5px; margin: 0;'  class="wp-caption-text">The Momentus XT is a nice compromise between &quot;spinning disk&quot; capacity and SSD performance with an emphasis on low cost</p></div>
<p>It&#8217;s really hard to benchmark a hybrid drive like the Momentus XT. An integrated hybrid drive, the Seagate includes an on-disk controller that attempts to keep its 4 GB of SLC flash memory full of the data you&#8217;re likely to ask for. So it&#8217;s always trying actively to predict what you&#8217;ll need and move that data between disk and flash. This is very different from an SSD, which always uses flash, or a hard disk drive, which mostly relies on the spinning disk for performance.</p>
<p>Most benchmarks are designed to hammer on the underlying storage media, actively bypassing cache. This really causes issues for the Momentus XT in benchmarks like Iometer. The best test of this drive I&#8217;ve seen is over at <a href="http://www.storagereview.com/seagate_momentus_xt_review"  target="_blank">Storage Review</a>, since it includes underwhelming Iometer tests and more-impressive Storagemark results. If you only looked at synthetic tests like Iometer, you&#8217;d think the Momentus XT was worthless. But the &#8220;workload trace&#8221; tests of Storagemark have it outperforming the 10,000 rpm Western Digital VelociRaptor!</p>
<p>The reality is somewhere in the middle: My friends <a href="http://storagemojo.com/"  target="_blank">Robin</a> and <a href="http://deepstorage.net"  target="_blank">Howard</a> have both used a Momentus XT in their MacBook Pro, and were happy with its performance. They tell me the Momentus XT makes their computers feel much faster. But another friend, <a href="http://storageioblog.com/?p=1587"  target="_blank">Greg</a>, reports some serious issues with Windows crashing and an odd noise from the drive. Maybe it&#8217;s more stable in a Mac than a PC?</p>
<p>In my opinion, <strong>the Momentus XT is a nice compromise between &#8220;spinning disk&#8221; capacity and SSD performance with an emphasis on low cost</strong>. If I was going to upgrade my internal hard disk drive today, I&#8217;d buy a Momentus XT in a second. After all, I&#8217;m using a Mac and the additional cost is negligible. Plus, I tend to carry lots of data around &#8211; mainly video files for Final Cut. This last is the reason I haven&#8217;t &#8220;gone hybrid&#8221; myself: I already installed a 640 GB Toshiba drive!</p>
<h4>What Are The &#8220;All-SSD&#8221; Tradeoffs?</h4>
<p>The other option is to go all SSD, and this is what most computer vendors (including Apple) have selected for their high-end machines. Flash SSD technology keeps improving, giving better performance and a more-favorable cost/capacity balance. I don&#8217;t think 128 GB SSDs are yet available for the same $120 that gets you a Momentus XT, but that would get you the well-regarded <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-Technology-Vertex-2-5-Inch-OCZSSD22VTXE60G/dp/B003NE5JCE%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAJYEMQAFREVFYOMPQ%26tag%3DPackrat-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB003NE5JCE" >60 GB OCZ Vertex 2</a>. A 128 GB SSD is likely to cost almost $250, changing the economic argument somewhat.</p>
<div id="attachment_4214" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 359px;  border: 1px solid #dddddd; background-color: #f3f3f3; padding-top: 4px; margin: 10px; text-align:center; display: block; margin-right: auto; margin-left: auto;"><a href="http://static.fosketts.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/SSDVP100_angle_top_64GB-e1290290830613.jpg" ><img class="size-full wp-image-4214 " title="SSDVP100_angle_top_64GB" src="http://static.fosketts.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/SSDVP100_angle_top_64GB-e1290290830613.jpg" alt="" width="349" height="247" /></a><p style=' padding: 0 4px 5px; margin: 0;'  class="wp-caption-text">Capacity, performance, or low cost: Pick two!</p></div>
<p>Just about any SSD you pick will absolutely destroy the Momentus XT in both benchmark and real-world performance, but you&#8217;d never come close to the hybrid drive&#8217;s capacity without doubling the cost of the MacBook with a <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-SSDNow-2-5-Inch-SNVP325-S2-512GB/dp/B00358V5MG%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAJYEMQAFREVFYOMPQ%26tag%3DPackrat-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB00358V5MG" >Kingston V+Series 512 GB</a> device.</p>
<p>This is the SSD curse: Make do with less capacity and more performance or spend an arm and a leg.</p>
<h4>Is SSD+HDD An Option?</h4>
<p>Then there is the alternate path you suggest: Use both a hard disk drive and an SSD. There are two options here:</p>
<ol>
<li>Replace the laptop&#8217;s optical drive with a hard disk drive using an adapter like the <a href="http://www.mcetech.com/optibay/"  target="_blank">$99 MCE OptiBay</a></li>
<li>Use an external FireWire or USB drive, or repurpose your drive using a case</li>
</ol>
<p>That second choice might not be an option for everyone. Do you really want to lug around a portable hard drive and cable? Do you want to connect it if you&#8217;re on a plane or in a meeting? Then there&#8217;s the fact that <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2010/10/18/os-107-lion-bring-usb-30-mac/"  target="_blank">Macs don&#8217;t yet have native USB 3.0</a> or <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2010/09/09/expresscard-sata-usb-jmicron-siliconimage/"  target="_blank">eSATA</a>, so you&#8217;re looking at a maximum of 70 MB/s from a FireWire 800 port.</p>
<p>Either way, you&#8217;re talking about manually deciding which data resides on the SSD and which goes on the hard disk drive. Since Mac OS X is not nearly as friendly as Windows about using multiple drives, you&#8217;re certain to waste some of that expensive SSD capacity on rarely-used data. That&#8217;s fine, it just drives up the cost of the SSD+HDD combination.</p>
<p>One caution regarding SSDs in Apple machines: Mac OS X does not support TRIM, so ordinary SSDs will run into serious performance issues once they start filling up. You need a very aggressive SSD controller to maintain the awesome speed you start with. Something like the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-Upgrade-SVP100S2B-64GR/dp/B004APRLVW%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAJYEMQAFREVFYOMPQ%26tag%3DPackrat-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB004APRLVW" >Kingston V+100</a> which uses the latest Toshiba T6UG1XBG controller with the <a href="http://www.anandtech.com/show/4010/kingston-ssdnow-v-plus-100-review"  target="_blank">updated firmware</a> Apple uses in the MacBook Air.</p>
<h3>Stephen&#8217;s Stance</h3>
<p>I would never want to rely on an external hard disk drive solution, I need too much storage, and I&#8217;m too cheap to buy an OptiBay, let alone a decent-sized SSD. If I was in your shoes, I&#8217;d have just two options:</p>
<ol>
<li>Spend $120 and get the Momentus XT for pretty-good performance and single-disk capacity</li>
<li>Spend $130 and get the 60 GB OCZ Vertex 2 for awesome performance and hack together some kind of OptiBay alternative</li>
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<p>Although the second choice sounds like fun, it&#8217;s not a great idea in a laptop. I&#8217;m also not too good at manually managing data and would rather have something do it for me. This is why I&#8217;m so keen on the Momentus XT!</p>
<p>Given your circumstances, I suggest getting the Momentus XT now for your current laptop and seeing how you like it. If it doesn&#8217;t give you the performance you want, you can always go the SSD route with the new MacBook Pro and cry over the you $20 you wasted buying a hybrid rather than a regular 7200 rpm 500 GB drive. For what it&#8217;s worth, Apple currently charges $300 extra for a 128 GB SSD.</p>
<p>One word of caution, though: You mention that one of the main causes of performance issues for you is excessive swapping from virtual machines. This is a real red flag performance-wise. The Momentus XT has only 4 GB of flash, and your swapping VMs are going to eat that up, leaving none to accelerate other functions. You might find that the hybrid is even slower than a regular drive in this use case, since the controller would constantly be juggling gigabytes of data between flash and disk. <a href="http://www.techhead.co.uk/vmware-esxi-vswapping-with-sandforce-ssds"  target="_blank">An SSD will do much better with VM swapping</a>, but if you&#8217;re not using TRIM you&#8217;re going to hit a wall sooner or later. The only real solution for a Mac user is to max out the RAM rather than trying to monkey with faster storage.</p>
<h3>A Reader Talks Back</h3>
<p>Here&#8217;s the opinion of a reader who upgraded his MacBook Pro to use the Momentus XT:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;To follow up on our previous discussion, I decided to buy the hybrid Momentus XT. It&#8217;s been in the laptop about 24 hours, and here are first impressions:</p>
<ol>
<li>Getting into a pre-unibody MacBook Pro is no picnic!  I had to get a Torx #6 screwdriver and used about 6 different little containers to hold all the different kinds/sizes of screw.  And getting the top/keyboard assembly off of its clips was a struggle.</li>
<li>Right away I noticed the machine ran <em>substantially cooler</em> as measured by the fan speed.  The previous drive was a Seagate Momentus 500gb/7200 rpm 7200.4, and during disk intensive sessions e.g. TimeMachine backups the fans would crank up to 5000 rpm; they&#8217;d be pretty noticeable.  With the hybrid, during the same kind of backup activity, the fans have not run faster than 3200 rpm, which is comfortably below &#8216;notice&#8217; sound levels.</li>
<li>The machine feels a bit faster, but Parallels definitely felt faster.  When I launched Parallels, the machine&#8217;s swap usage climbed to 2gb (on top of other stuff I run).  Before that would cause a significant hit, but with the hybrid the overall performance, and the performance inside Parallels, felt faster.</li>
</ol>
<p>So I think this upgrade is a win if you&#8217;re considering replacing an existing drive with a 500gb/7200 rpm drive, just on the basis of reduced heat.  What remains to be seen, of course, is the reliability of this drive (I&#8217;ve had bad luck with Seagate 3.5&#8243; drives.)&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes! Compellent has just announced at Storage Networking World that they&#8217;ll be adding enterprise solid state drives (SSDs) to their excellent fully-virtualized storage arrays. Why is this worth shouting about? Simply because their automated block-based tiered storage architecture ought to be able to really take full advantage of the performance offered by SSDs. If you&#8217;ll [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! Compellent <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/13/compellent_adds_ssd/"  target="_blank">has just announced</a> at Storage Networking World that they&#8217;ll be adding enterprise solid state drives (SSDs) to their excellent fully-virtualized storage arrays. Why is this worth shouting about? Simply because their automated block-based tiered storage architecture ought to be able to really take full advantage of the performance offered by SSDs. If you&#8217;ll pardon the pun, SSD in a Compellent array is positively <em>compelling</em>!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take a second to review: EMC became the first modern storage vendor to include NAND flash-based solid state drives as a standard tier of storage in an enterprise storage product when they <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/01/14/flash-emcs-dmx-is-the-new-new-thing-again/"  target="_self">announced flash in the Symmetrix DMX in January</a>. Although every other vendor has made &#8220;me too&#8221; comments since then, enterprise flash remains pretty rare. Could Compellent really be the second major vendor to actually do something, coming along 10 months later?</p>
<p>More than a year ago, <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2007/08/02/wherefore-art-thou-solid-state-disks/"  target="_self">I rhetorically asked where the enterprise solid state drives were</a>. In that post, and <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2007/08/14/commercial-ssds-are-here/"  target="_self">others that followed</a>, I suggested that SSD wouldn&#8217;t really &#8220;work&#8221; as a mainstream tier unless a storage array was smart enough to dynamically allocate content to this &#8220;tier-0&#8243; <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/10/05/granularity-challenge-storage-management/"  target="_self">in a granular fashion</a>. In other words, adding a big lump of flash to a static storage array and trying to manually allocate it on a LUN-by-LUN basis to hot applications is not likely to meet anyone&#8217;s cost/benefit sniff test!</p>
<p>But if a <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/09/14/turning-page-raid/"  target="_self">post-RAID</a> storage system was smart, it could really make use of the technology, and that&#8217;s what makes Compellent&#8217;s announcement so interesting. They dynamically move <em>blocks</em> (rather than the much-bigger LUNs) around, and could thus make a smaller amount of flash go a lot further. Add a few flash drives and let the system tune itself! This is a big differentiator, folks!</p>
<p>Of course, this is not just Compellent&#8217;s advantage. Any fully-virtualized system could do the same, and we&#8217;ve heard such talk from folks as diverse as <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.communities.hp.com/online/blogs/datastorage/archive/2008/10/08/solid-state-hype-or-fud.aspx"  target="_self">HP</a> (I&#8217;d love to see it in both EVA and LeftHand), IBM (for real in SVC, not the <a href="http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/storagevirtualization?entry=1m_iops_from_flash_actions"  target="_blank">science experiment</a>), <a href="http://blogs.sun.com/studler/entry/open_storage_the_r_evolution"  target="_blank">Sun</a> (combined with ZFS), <a href="http://thesantechnologist.com/?p=161"  target="_blank">Dell/EqualLogic</a>, and I&#8217;d love to hear it from 3PAR. Bring it on, folks! <a href="http://storageio.com/blog/?p=8"  target="_blank">Listen to Greg</a>!  Let&#8217;s get this technology integrated, tested, released, and in the field!</p>
<p>Update: Compellent probably won&#8217;t ship their SSDs in volume &#8217;till Q1. But <a rel="nofollow" href="http://storagearchitect.blogspot.com/2008/10/compellent-and-ssds.html"  target="_blank">Chris Evans seems to agree with me</a> 100%, and <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/14/dell_deduplication_strategy/"  target="_blank">Dell is talking SSD</a> (but no promises yet).</p>
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		<title>Storage Decisions New York 2008 Presentations Now Available</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My pal, Greg Schulz, just pointed out that TechTarget has posted the presentations from Storage Decisions New York 2008. If you were there, you might have tried to figure out how to download the presentations at the kiosk/table in the lobby. I couldn&#8217;t figure it out, myself, though! So you might want to head over [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My pal, Greg Schulz, <a href="http://storageio.com/blog/?p=130"  target="_blank">just pointed out</a> that TechTarget has posted the presentations from <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/09/24/storage-decisions-new-york-2008-feedback/"  target="_self">Storage Decisions New York 2008</a>. If you were there, you might have tried to figure out how to download the presentations at the kiosk/table in the lobby. I couldn&#8217;t figure it out, myself, though! So you might want to head over to TechTarget&#8217;s page to <a href="http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid5_gci1331719,00.html"  target="_blank">download them yourself</a>. And if you weren&#8217;t there, you might want to check them out anyway, or head over to <a href="http://storagedecisions.techtarget.com/sanfran/index.html"  target="_blank">San Francisco in November</a>, since many of the sessions will be repeated at that show.</p>
<p>You can find my presentations here:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.bitpipe.com/detail/RES/1222798936_404.html" >Deep Dive into Email Archiving Products: 11 Essential Attributes of Email Archiving Systems</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.bitpipe.com/detail/RES/1222798929_45.html" >Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Virtualization &#8212; In One Hour</a></li>
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<blockquote><p>See my posts on <a href="http://gestaltit.com/author/stephen/"  target="_blank">Gestalt IT</a> for similar <a href="http://gestaltit.com"  target="_blank">enterprise IT infrastructure commentary</a></p>
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		<title>Hello from Storage Decisions Chicago</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I arrived in beautiful Chicago today for the Storage Decisions show at the Hilton here.  What a great event this is &#8211; loads of interested and committed storage users and some of the best minds in the business get together to talk about how we all do this thing we call storage! I was glad [...]]]></description>
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<p>I arrived in beautiful Chicago today for <a href="http://storagedecisions.techtarget.com/chicago/"  target="_blank">the Storage Decisions show</a> at the Hilton here.  What a great event this is &#8211; loads of interested and committed storage users and some of the best minds in the business get together to talk about how we all do this thing we call storage!</p>
<p>I was glad to see <a href="http://drunkendata.com/"  target="_blank">Jon Toigo</a> here &#8211; while I may not always agree with him, he certainly has vast experience in the storage industry.  And I appreciate his role as the iconoclast of storage.  We both agree that the real action in the industry happens at a whole different layer than just storing and moving bits.</p>
<p>Before sitting down with Jon, I was pleased to chat with my good friends, <a href="http://www.backupcentral.com/"  target="_blank">Curtis Preston</a> and Bill Peldzus, both of whom have, over the years, proved themselves advocates of end user concerns.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll also be looking for <a href="http://www.storageio.com/index.htm"  target="_blank">Greg Schulz</a>, Mark Staimer, <a href="http://tanejagroup.com/"  target="_blank">Arun Taneja</a>, and <a rel="nofollow" href="http://esgblogs.typepad.com/"  target="_blank">Steve Duplessie</a> and his crew from ESG.  See what I mean about the best minds in the industry?</p>
<p>Of course, the hotel is crawling with TechTarget&#8217;s staff, including <a href="http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/magazineByAuthor/0,296893,sid5_gci963742,00.html"  target="_blank">Rich C</a> and <a href="http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/magazineByAuthor/0,296893,sid5_gci805509,00.html"  target="_blank">Rich F</a> from <a href="http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/magazineCurrent/0,296884,sid5,00.html"  target="_blank"><em>Storage</em> magazine</a>, <a href="http://storage.blogs.techtarget.com/author/draffo/"  target="_blank">Dave Raffo</a> from SearchStorage.com, and Amy, Lindsey and the folks who run the show.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re here, please do come up and introduce yourself.  If not, there are three more shows scheduled for this year!</p>
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