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		<title>EMC V-Max FAST: Coming in December &#8230; And 2010!</title>
		<link>http://blog.fosketts.net/2009/08/17/emc-vmax-fast-coming-december/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[EMC&#8217;s Fully Automated Storage Tiering (FAST) was one of the most welcome annoucements made during the Symmetrix V-Max introduction. It would be a significant modernization of EMC&#8217;s Symmetrix line, and would be one of the first unique features of the Symmetrix V-Max line. But many, including me, were disappointed to learn in May that FAST [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EMC&#8217;s Fully Automated Storage Tiering (FAST) was one of the most welcome annoucements made during the Symmetrix V-Max introduction. It would be a significant modernization of EMC&#8217;s Symmetrix line, and would be one of the first unique features of the Symmetrix V-Max line. But many, including me, were disappointed to learn in May that <a href="http://gestaltit.com/featured/top/gestalt/emc-symmetrix-vmax-fast-virtual/"  target="_blank">FAST would not be available for upwards of a year</a>. The exact release dates have been unclear since then, but the company is not becoming more open as the release nears: <strong>FAST V1, which works at LUN level, will be released in December, and FAST V2, with sub-LUN granularity, will follow in <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">May of</span> mid-2010!</strong></p>
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<p>EMC mentioned this schedule on their public earnings call, repeated it in discussions with <a href="http://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/article.php/11176_3833926_2"  target="_blank">Enterprise Storage Forum</a>, and corporate PR confirmed it to me this morning. FAST is, if you will excuse the pun, fast-approaching!</p>
<p>There&#8217;s actually a very-significant difference between FAST versions 1 and 2:</p>
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<li><strong>FAST version 1</strong> (coming in December 2009) can automatically migrate <strong>an entire LUN</strong> between tiers of storage on the Symmetrix V-Max based on access patterns. This is a nice-to-have feature, but does not yet live up to the promise of automated tiered storage, as pioneered by Compellent and offered in various forms by many other storage companies. I am told that FAST version 1 also <strong>does not support virtually-provisioned (thin) volumes</strong>. Although FAST will make it much easier to take advantage of solid state flash drives (EFDs to EMC), it will do nothing to improve utilization.</li>
<li><strong>FAST version 2</strong> (coming in <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">May</span> mid-2010?) will automatically move smaller <strong>sub-LUN</strong> pieces of storage between tiers of storage, and will reportedly support <strong>virtual provisioning</strong>. It is likely that FAST would use the same extent size supported by virtual provisioning, which is 12 tracks or 768 KB. The combination of virtual provisioning and fully-automated storage tiering will finally EMC the ammunition they need to defend their turf against smaller challengers when it comes to these sticky technical features.</li>
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<p>So there you have it. EMC V-Max gets FAST in December 2009 <em>and</em> <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">May</span> mid-2010! Now how about a schedule for geo-distributed clustering?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Update</strong>: Fixed two typos above. I wrote &#8220;May 2009&#8243; instead of &#8220;May 2010&#8243;. You should see my checkbook!</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Note</strong>: Although Lou Przystas told Enterprise Storage Forum that FAST V2 would come in May, EMC has apparently not set a hard date and are saying &#8220;mid-2010&#8243; at this point. Even this is an aggressive ship date, but I won&#8217;t say EMC missed it unless we haven&#8217;t got it by the end of summer!</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>You might also want to read these other posts...</h3><ul><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2010/10/29/infographic-how-fast-storage/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">How Fast Is It? A Storage Infographic</a></li><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/10/16/symantecs-thin-api-step-direction/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Symantec&#8217;s Thin API Is A Step In The Right Direction</a></li><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/12/04/emc-cuts-staff/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">EMC Cuts Staff as Recession Continues</a></li><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2010/01/28/drobo-4k-drive-support/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Drobo Adding 4K Drive Support &#8211; What About Everyone Else?</a></li><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2009/04/14/emc-symmetrix-vmax-launch/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Tracking EMC&#8217;s Symmetrix V-Max Launch</a></li></ul></div><script src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~s/sfoskett?i=http://blog.fosketts.net/2009/08/17/emc-vmax-fast-coming-december/" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script><hr />
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		<title>Is Deduplication Ready for Prime Time?</title>
		<link>http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/09/25/deduplication-ready-prime-time/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deduplication is here for backup, but it is not yet ready for prime time in primary storage applications]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an article for Enterprise Storage Forum, Paul Shread comments on the <a href="http://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/continuity/news/article.php/3774031"  target="_blank">positive reviews that various deduplication technologies</a> got at <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/09/24/storage-decisions-new-york-2008-feedback/"  target="_self">Storage Decisions</a> from analysts and end users. He suggests that less than 10% of attendees were using deduplication already, but that others were inspired by their experience and would be using it soon.</p>
<p>Paul goes on to quote me, saying I &#8220;didn&#8217;t think primary data de-duplication technology was ready for prime time just yet.&#8221; I absolutely did say these words, but I am not sure if my point came across.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve recently expounded about <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/09/16/deduplication-primary-storage/"  target="_self">the benefits of deduplication technology</a>, but have warned that it might not be all it&#8217;s cracked up to be in <em>primary storage</em> environments. By &#8220;primary&#8221; I mean those storage environments serving mission-critical applications. Although dedupe works great for backup and archiving, the random I/O, low latency, and high throughput of primary storage (and especially virtualized servers) might be too much for current systems. And as of now, only <a href="http://www.netapp.com/us/products/platform-os/dedupe.html"  target="_blank">NetApp</a>, <a href="http://www.riverbed.com/company/news/press_releases/press_091508.php"  target="_blank">Riverbed</a> (<a href="http://www.byteandswitch.com/document.asp?doc_id=163827"  target="_blank">soon</a>), and startups <a href="http://green-bytes.com"  target="_blank">greenBytes</a> (see <a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/09/15/greenbytes-embraces-extends-zfs/"  target="_self">my story</a>) and <a href="http://www.ocarinanetworks.com/"  target="_blank">Ocarina</a> (more on them another time) were willing to go on record with me as supporting deduplication of primary storage.</p>
<p>So what I <em>meant</em> was that deduplication is not yet ready for prime time <em>in primary storage applications</em>. No one should hesitate to use the technology for backup or archiving at this point, but make sure you do a thorough evaluation of the specific product you are selecting to <a href="http://www.backupcentral.com/content/view/192/47/"  target="_blank">make sure it delivers the performance you require</a>!</p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>You might also want to read these other posts...</h3><ul><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/09/16/deduplication-primary-storage/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Deduplication Coming to Primary Storage</a></li><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/03/12/de-duplication-goes-mainstream/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">De-Duplication Goes Mainstream</a></li><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/05/27/storage-decisions-chicago/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Storage Decisions Chicago: All About Capacity Optimization</a></li><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/09/22/data-reduction-condensed-version/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Data Reduction: the Condensed Version</a></li><li><a href="http://blog.fosketts.net/2011/09/02/storage-decisions-york-capacity-optimization/"  rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Storage Decisions New York: Capacity Optimization</a></li></ul></div><script src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~s/sfoskett?i=http://blog.fosketts.net/2008/09/25/deduplication-ready-prime-time/" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script><hr />
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