Comments on: It’s Time To Speak Out Against Sexism In IT Recruiting http://blog.fosketts.net/2013/05/06/time-speak-sexism-recruiting/ Understanding the accumulation of data Wed, 21 Mar 2018 18:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.6 By: Harry Balsagna http://blog.fosketts.net/2013/05/06/time-speak-sexism-recruiting/#comment-35530 Wed, 12 Oct 2016 03:55:00 +0000 http://blog.fosketts.net/?p=8221#comment-35530 I have three daughters. I’ve put them all through endless computer classes, “Girls Who Code” classes offered by local industry/government, and have spent countless hours teaching them first-hand.

They don’t care.

Their friends don’t care.

Even in my tech-centric town, the daughters of tech employees like myself that want to code are few and far between, and this despite a HUGE push by schools, industry, and even parents themselves.

Sometimes, things are the way the are for a reason, and it’s not because anybody is evil. Males and females are different. Genitalia has nothing to do with it. It’s chromosomes. XX or XY. The “Y” indicates a strong proclivity toward hardcore tech.

Does this mean that there are no girl/women interested? Of course not. There are exceptions to everything. I know a dozen or so myself … although they are all collegues. The number of men is far greater, and it has nothing to do with booth babes.

The bourgeoisie has been chasing moral panic after moral panic lately. Interestingly, moral panics used to be the domain of the proletariat. Times change I suppose, and the general affluent of America’s upper-middle-class has freed them from such concerns as food, shelter, and clothing, and has left them free to invent problems which need an urgent solution. In fact, belief in the moral panic du jour is often used as a status symbol meant to indicate one’s membership in the more affluent class … not wholly unlike climate change.

Climate change proponents are likely to be more wealthy than non-beleivers, and the more wealthy one is, the more pollution one generally generates, but nonetheless, the causers spend an inordinate amount of time wagging their fingers against the lessor-causers, while decrying the fact that the earth continues to warm. Class and wealth have been America’s primary bigotries for the past 50+ years, and today’s endless moral panics are means for Americans to position themselves in the proper class segment.

If you want to to really talk about being underrepresented, consider this: 49% of the population has invented nearly every technological advancement we have today. From the car, to the plane, to the oven, to the elevator, to the blowdryer, to computer, to the … well, everything … has been invented by a male. Some 99% of things at least. That’s absolutely overwhelming, and no, that’s not because women have been chained to trees for the last 10,000 years.

It’s apparent that the Y chromosome is responsible for a certain about of intellectual curiosity, and for that reason, tech will likely always be male-dominated, and that is neither good nor bad, it just is.

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By: G5Man http://blog.fosketts.net/2013/05/06/time-speak-sexism-recruiting/#comment-17326 Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:50:00 +0000 http://blog.fosketts.net/?p=8221#comment-17326 Maybe if you took the name girl out of your handle and identified as just a ‘gamer’ you would have better luck. You want to be treated the same, yet you also want to be clearly identified as different. Which is it? Not being trite. Serious question.

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By: Alex G http://blog.fosketts.net/2013/05/06/time-speak-sexism-recruiting/#comment-17319 Thu, 01 Aug 2013 17:49:00 +0000 http://blog.fosketts.net/?p=8221#comment-17319 Marko,
Maybe you should be a “booth babe”. Your analysis skills are fairly skewed.

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By: Jonathan M http://blog.fosketts.net/2013/05/06/time-speak-sexism-recruiting/#comment-17313 Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:25:00 +0000 http://blog.fosketts.net/?p=8221#comment-17313 I am a male, WASP, late 30’s. I have worked in over a dozen IT depts ranging from govt, education, and business.

In every IT dept I did see sexism. The PBX tech was usually a woman and there was one or two women in entry level desktop support, not very capable, and often rumors about who they were sleeping with to get the job; so my perspective was skewed about women in IT.

I think of those IT departments now as immature and adolescent stemming from the IT managers being system administrators who were promoted into management.

However at my current company, let’s call it TA&A; I have not seen that type sexism despite nine years and working with hundreds of people. In fact, some of the most capable individuals here are women. I can list dozens that I greatly admire and respect.

I believe the reason for this difference is the higher caliber of management from the top down; a strong legal department and the quick investigation of any complaints and the replacement and demotion of managers who do not quickly react to complaints.

This company effectively implements diversity in hiring and promoting. There is a mix of racial, gender, and orientation even in senior level IT positions and because of that the IT organization is very mature and professional and is very effective.

This is not a plug. It is an honest appraisal of my current IT department.

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By: Jonathan Davis http://blog.fosketts.net/2013/05/06/time-speak-sexism-recruiting/#comment-17311 Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:13:00 +0000 http://blog.fosketts.net/?p=8221#comment-17311 I’ve got a problem with companies who use ANY model, mouthpiece, or glad-hander, male or female, to help sell a product. I expect people wearing company paraphernalia, to be able to answer my questions. If I am asking a fairly technical question, they should be able to ask the right questions back to be certain that they pass me on to the correct expert. You can be certain that if I am referred to the techies in the back of the booth, I will leave. When this takes place, the marketing arm of the company has made the decision that at a technical conference, the company techies don

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By: Ronny http://blog.fosketts.net/2013/05/06/time-speak-sexism-recruiting/#comment-17309 Fri, 19 Jul 2013 04:22:00 +0000 http://blog.fosketts.net/?p=8221#comment-17309 Sexism is discrimination against a certain sex. You discriminate against heterosexual men whose sexuality you seem to despise. It is natural for 99% men to be attracted to attractive young women. So live with it and stop the hatred.

And those women who “feel offended”: yes, it is sad you cannot compete. Live with it and compete in other fields.

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By: Mobile Application Development http://blog.fosketts.net/2013/05/06/time-speak-sexism-recruiting/#comment-17299 Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:07:00 +0000 http://blog.fosketts.net/?p=8221#comment-17299 Yes, IT is male dominated. But any woman that gets into IT industry is in it because that is her passion, and sexist opinions
(which are everywhere, I hate to burst your bubble, but in especially
male dominated industries) are part of the landscape

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By: Tech Guy http://blog.fosketts.net/2013/05/06/time-speak-sexism-recruiting/#comment-17264 Wed, 22 May 2013 17:45:00 +0000 http://blog.fosketts.net/?p=8221#comment-17264 Booth babes are the least of the problems. Seriously you think booth babes keep women out of tech? My daughter, despite being perfectly capable and despite all I do to encourage it as a father has 0 interest in tech outside of her talking or facetiming on her iPhone. She has no clue about booth babes. The issue is way deeper than booth babes and your making a mountain out of a mole hill. Bloggers with nothing better to do.

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By: Hank Yeomans http://blog.fosketts.net/2013/05/06/time-speak-sexism-recruiting/#comment-17262 Wed, 22 May 2013 15:44:00 +0000 http://blog.fosketts.net/?p=8221#comment-17262 I work with women in the tech industry on a daily basis. Frankly I don’t take any woman any less seriously or discount their abilities in any way because of a model I saw at a booth. One is a model selling sex and the other is clearly a woman who works in the tech industry. I think the problem is more than just booth babes. Clearing out booth babes only keeps you from seeing the problem. People lack personal responsibility and respect and can’t differentiate between the model and the engineer in the next cube. I’m neither for or against because babes don’t make me buy (or not buy) a product or visit a booth.

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By: Hank Yeomans http://blog.fosketts.net/2013/05/06/time-speak-sexism-recruiting/#comment-17261 Wed, 22 May 2013 15:25:00 +0000 http://blog.fosketts.net/?p=8221#comment-17261 You gotta admit though…those storage arrays get…sooo..hot

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